Fuzzbollah Succeeds In Getting Glenn Thompson's Head To Explode

Well, I guess poor old Glenn can't handle the truth. A thread started in the comments to the last post in his blog - Arbormarket. When fuzzbollah tried to add in to the comments, in a free speech sort of way, Glenn chose to delete a rebuttal that had been made to his own misinformational statements. All fuzzbollah was trying to do was point out the truth! Glenn Thompson, Fuzzbollah thinks you are so pathetic!

The thread goes as follows:

Vendors said...

Here's a link to the 2008 Northville Farmer's market.
http://www.northville.org/Events_Calendar/Content/Vena%27s_Greenhouse/

The persons in the photo are Denise Brock and her husband. MY question to Mr. Thompson is the following..
Since Ms. Brock is owner of Vena's Greenhouse and they have 3 stalls at the A2 market, is Denise Brock entitled to 3 more stalls at the A2 market? Totaling 6 stalls

January 15, 2009 11:08 AM
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Glenn Thompson said...

The two markets are completely independent. I don't see any logical basis for your question.

January 16, 2009 8:17 PM
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Anonymous said...

the business entity of "vena's greenhouse" has 3 stalls at the
A2 market. since Denise and Carol are owners of Vena's greenhouse" is Denise also entitled to have the business entity of "Denise Brock " at the A2 market (she has 3 stalls).
Denise Brock has 2 businesses at the A2 market.

January 17, 2009 2:04 PM
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Glenn Thompson said...

Again, the two Markets are independent.

The Ann Arbor Market has determined that Carol Vena and Denise Brock are both entitled to separate stall space. Through long term service, following the market rules for seniority, they have acquired 3 stalls each.

What they choose to do at the Northville Market is not relevant.

January 17, 2009 6:00 PM
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Anonymous said...

so at the A2 market Denise Brock is not owner of Vena's Greenhouse?

January 19, 2009 1:01 PM
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Glenn Thompson said...

That is possible.

January 19, 2009 4:38 PM
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Blogger fuzzbollah said...

What is relevant, Glenn, is that Ann Arbor's Market Operating Rules contained provisions about businesses operating at the market, that they should be "single business entities". Back in 2000, the Market Commission ruled that Carol Vena and Denise Brock should not be operating together, but as 2 separate single business entities at the Ann Arbor market - but they continued to violate those rules that were in place. Carol Vena and Denise Brock are forced to operate as a single business entity at the Northville Market under Vena's Greenhouse.

What exactly IS the business arrangement between Denise Brock and Carol Vena, and why is that even important for Ann Arbor's market? Do Carol and Denise own Vena's Greenhouse together? Do they share growing space? Do they grow anything independently from each other? Does Denise "rent" or "lease" space from Carol or vice versa? Why should they be allowed 6 stalls when in reality they operate as one business? This is unfair on its face, and I don't know how you can defend this practice. You should be ashamed of yourself, and apologize to all those vendors who have had to wait YEARS before being able to get even ONE permanent stall.

January 22, 2009 1:24 PM
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Glenn Thompson said...

You are confusing what is a business entity and what you think it should be. It is entirely possible, for example, for Brock Farms, Brock Greenhouses, Vena Farms, and Vena Greenhouses to all be separate legal business entities. It is entirely possible that the business entities at the Ann Arbor Market are entirely separate from those at Northville even if the principals involved are the same.

Two unrelated people could sell separately at the Ann Arbor Market and then sell as a partnership at Northville. Would you oppose this? On what legal basis? Is your great concern simply that the people involved are related?

If the son or daughter of a doctor or lawyer decides to become a doctor or lawyer would you try to prohibit them from practicing in the same city? Would it be "wrong" for them to share a legal office or a common library?

Many of my uncles were farmers. They started with a section of my grandfathers farm. Should they have been prohibited from selling milk to the same dairy? We should be encouraging sons and daughters to stay in farming rather than providing obstacles that encourage them sell the family land for development.

January 23, 2009 2:27 PM
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The following post from fuzzbollah was deleted by Glenn:

When this particular family business monopolizes the public space, they deprive other farmers from gaining a foothold in the marketplace. They deprive legitimate farmers of their livelihood and the chance to make a decent living, enough to want to come back to sell at the market with a much wider variety of goods.

You are forgetting the fact that this particular family business did break Market Operating Rules, in the process of conducting their business to their own benefit, not for the benefit of the community. They deserved the very punishment that they sought for others to have inflicted upon them, which could be expulsion from the market, and loss of seniority. In addition, this particular family business, as part of a so-called grower's association, managed to manipulate market politics for many years, and intimidating and threatening other vendors until a small valiant group of vendors and citizen/customers came and took away their power during the recent upheaval days of the Market Commission. I have observed that this particular family business holds Ann Arborites in contempt. I find them to be nasty vendors selling sub-par produce and seedling flats which look like they come from a distributor. They use chemicals on their produce. I take my business elsewhere in the market, usually to the organic growers.

The market is scarce public space, and the business generated there should be for the benefit of the public. The barriers to greater diversity of produce at the Ann Arbor Public Market include one particular family business allowed to occupy more than 10% of the stalls on the busiest market days. Its that kind of pet treatment that has been reducing the ability of other legitimate area farmers to be able to stay on their land, and which kills our market.

Again, you support this unfair situation?

January 23, 2009 10:38 PM
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I leave you, the reader to make any conclusions you want to make. My conclusions are that Glenn Thompson has too much time on his hands, insists on having the final word - and usually totally wrong at that, is probably not getting laid at all - or has severe constipation - you choose your own theory, and that he refuses to be a real American and air all points of view.